has anyone here compared the new VAF DC-X gen IV to the older DCX speakers ?

[laz]

laz

[Robby]

laz
laz,

I have heard both, I own a pair of original DC-Xs, these are going to my
son & I have ordered a pair of new DC-Xs.
I reckon the bass is lower and they sound 'sweeter' at the high end.
These speaker are more expensive than the older models however the same
old method of selection applies...."price for performance" is
an appropriate guide.
Robby.

[D. Advocate]

Post by Robby

laz,

I have heard both, I own a pair of original DC-Xs, these are going to my
son & I have ordered a pair of new DC-Xs.
I reckon the bass is lower and they sound 'sweeter' at the high end.
These speaker are more expensive than the older models however the same
old method of selection applies...."price for performance" is
an appropriate guide.
Robby.

The original DC-X has an awful upper midrange hump that fools the
inexperienced into thinking they are experiencing magic imaging and
extroadinary detail (when in fact, they are having details masked by
this emphasis) so I can only assume by your comments that the new DC-X
suffers from the same flaw since you don't mention the voicing as
having changed.

The woofers now rolloff at 4 kHz instead of 8kHz which is a much more
sane layout but since this puts much more power through the tweeter, 2
are now needed to maintain the overall power handling. The sloping
arrangement of the tweeters is to minimise their vertical separation
and thus attempt to minimise the combing that is an inevitable result
from such a design. It is more than likely that the 'sweeter' high end
is due to the more sensible crossover frequency as the foam pads stuck
to the old Audax fiberglass woofers (which are no longer available
hence the redesign) could only mask some of the distortion that those
woofers produced as they rolled off in the old model DC-X.

Is the bass just fuller or is there more extension?

[Johnny]

Post by D. Advocate

Post by Robby

laz,

I have heard both, I own a pair of original DC-Xs, these are going to my
son & I have ordered a pair of new DC-Xs.
I reckon the bass is lower and they sound 'sweeter' at the high end.
These speaker are more expensive than the older models however the same
old method of selection applies...."price for performance" is
an appropriate guide.
Robby.

The original DC-X has an awful upper midrange hump that fools the
inexperienced into thinking they are experiencing magic imaging and
extroadinary detail (when in fact, they are having details masked by
this emphasis) so I can only assume by your comments that the new DC-X
suffers from the same flaw since you don't mention the voicing as
having changed.
The woofers now rolloff at 4 kHz instead of 8kHz which is a much more
sane layout but since this puts much more power through the tweeter, 2
are now needed to maintain the overall power handling. The sloping
arrangement of the tweeters is to minimise their vertical separation
and thus attempt to minimise the combing that is an inevitable result
from such a design. It is more than likely that the 'sweeter' high end
is due to the more sensible crossover frequency as the foam pads stuck
to the old Audax fiberglass woofers (which are no longer available
hence the redesign) could only mask some of the distortion that those
woofers produced as they rolled off in the old model DC-X.
Is the bass just fuller or is there more extension?

If you assume that the voicing is unchanged, then you still have a
speaker with a midrange peak above 1kHz, depressed bass response, and
the artificial detail that you mention.

I am waiting to see independant frequency response plots at a
specified measurement distance. Now who is is that does the MLS
measurements for Aust. HiFi magazine?

regards,
Johnny.